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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#248 — Order & Freedom

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2021

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Michele Gelfand about the difference between tight and loose cultures. They discuss the primacy of cultural norms in governing human behavior, the trade-offs between order and freedom, conservatism vs liberalism, sensitivity to threat, scarcity, the COVID pandemic, the Jeffrey Toobin affair, political polarization, the problem of extreme stereotypes, and other topics.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast.

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This is Sam Harris.

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1:00.6

Okay, today I'm speaking with Michelle Gelfand.

1:05.5

Michelle was a professor of psychology at the University of Maryland.

1:09.2

For many years, she's now moving to Stanford.

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And she sends some very interesting research on the power and primacy of cultural norms.

1:19.0

All of this has been widely cited, and she has received numerous awards.

1:24.2

On the day after we recorded this conversation, she learned that she's been elected to the

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