247 - Michael Martin and Nate Hile - Esoteric Christianity

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8 • 824 Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2022

⏱️ 65 minutes

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This video is a repost from Nate’s channel, ‘Grail Country’. We discuss Valentin Tomberg’s book ‘Meditations on the Tarot: A Journey into Christian Hermeticism’ and Christian esotericism more generally, how different esoteric perspectives unfolded throughout history, Rosicrucianism, freemasonry, perennialism and how these traditions deviate from Orthodox mysticism. We also discuss evolution and natural selection as a mythical narrative. Original video: Christian Esotericism with guests Jonathan Pageau and Michael Martin (Grail Country): https://youtu.be/xefzGC8jQIg On my channel: https://youtu.be/PjOwRIBPUU8 Meditations on the Tarot: A Journey into Christian Hermeticism: https://www.amazon.com/Meditations-Tarot-Journey-Christian-Hermeticism/dp/1585421618 =============== - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. My website designers, Anomalist Design: https://www.anomalistdesign.com/

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0:00.0	The thing, the whole evolution narrative is the most, is just so hilarious because the evolution
0:04.5	narrative has to be, ends up being teleological.
0:07.7	They can't avoid it.
0:08.8	Every time they try to make it non-teleological, it failed.
0:12.3	So, and so it always ends up having to be teleological.
0:15.4	And so then it becomes non-scientific immediately.
0:18.3	It just becomes a kind of a mythological pattern. And it's like, well, if it's just just becomes a kind of mythological pattern. It's like,
0:21.6	well, if it's just mythological story, my mythological story is much better. Like, the creation
0:27.5	narrative in Genesis accounts way in a better manner for the ontological hierarchy of your experience
0:33.9	of the world than the way that that evolution talks about reality. And you can
0:39.1	see like, I mean, you know, when I talked about Weinstein, it's always the same issue. And you,
0:42.9	you see the same with all the evolutionary theories. They're basically saying, what evolutionary
0:46.2	evolution really wants you to do is to basically kill and compete and take and just get your
0:52.6	seat out there and get your jeans to the next generation.
0:55.0	But of course we shouldn't do that.
0:57.0	Right.
0:57.2	It's like, okay, well, where do you get the we shouldn't do that from?
1:00.0	Yeah.
1:00.4	That's actually what interests me because that's a lot closer to what I care about.
1:05.2	And then maybe you can find that in the Genesis story, but the other, you can't find it
1:08.8	anywhere else in your little pattern,
1:12.0	like in your little worldview.
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