245: Michael Shellenberger: The rise of the censorship industrial complex
The Brendan O'Neill Show
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🗓️ 31 August 2023
⏱️ 59 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. Welcome to this live recording of the Brendan O'Neill show with me, Brendan O'Neill |
| 0:05.9 | and my very special guest, Michael Schellenberger. Mike, welcome to the show. |
| 0:10.4 | Thanks for having me. It's great to have you back on. I think this might be your fourth time |
| 0:14.9 | on the show. We love talking to you. There is always so much to talk about. Before we start this |
| 0:21.4 | conversation, I want to warn everyone that I am poorly, hence why my voice might croak and crack |
| 0:27.2 | during this discussion. But please bear with me. The content will be good, even if the voice |
| 0:32.8 | gives way every now and then. Mike, I've got a million questions for you. I'm sure the audience |
| 0:38.9 | has questions for you as well. So I think we should just jump straight into the conversation. |
| 0:43.0 | And the first issue I want to talk to you about is an issue that's been close to Spike's heart |
| 0:48.4 | since the very beginning of our publishing 21 years ago. I know it's an issue close to your |
| 0:53.1 | heart as well, which is freedom of speech. And you've been doing some sterling work on this over |
| 0:58.4 | the past few months and the past few years, looking at the new forms of censorship that are emerging, |
| 1:04.4 | the way in which corporate entities are merging with government entities to try and censor public |
| 1:10.3 | discussion on everything from climate change to COVID-19. So I want to kick off with this issue |
| 1:15.8 | in particular and dig down into what form censorship takes today. So I want to start off by asking |
| 1:22.6 | you about the censorship industrial complex. That's something that you've written about extensively. |
| 1:28.4 | You've spoken about it at the Judiciary Committee at the House of Representatives at a huge event |
| 1:34.7 | in London recently. So to start, could you explain to us what you mean by the censorship industrial |
| 1:41.0 | complex and why you think this phenomenon is really worth focusing on? The censorship industrial |
| 1:46.0 | complex was something that we sort of stumbled onto. We were working, we got next to the Twitter |
| 1:51.9 | files. As many people know, we were looking, we were discovering a lot of what you might call |
| 1:56.2 | biased censorship in favor of the progressive side of things, whether on gender or COVID was a big |
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