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Okay, well today I'm speaking with Peter Singer, Francesca Minerva, and Jeff McMahon.

Peter is a professor of bioethics at Princeton, and he's been on the podcast before.

He focuses on practical ethics and is extraordinarily well known for his book Animal Liberation,

which is pretty close to the foundation of the animal rights movement. He's also written a lot

about global poverty and has been deeply inspirational to effective altruists everywhere.

Francesca Minerva is a research fellow at the University of Milan,

and her research focuses on applied ethics, medical and bioethics, discrimination,

and academic freedom, among other topics. And Jeff McMahon is a professor of moral philosophy

at Oxford University, and he focuses on a range of issues related to harm and benefit,

including war, self-defense, and defensive others, abortion, and fantaside,

euthanasia, personal identity, the moral status of animals, the ethics of causing future people

to exist, i.e. having children, disability, philanthropy, and other topics. And the

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