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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2447 - Mike Benz

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan

Comedy

4.5245.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2026

⏱️ 160 minutes

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Mike Benz is the Executive Director of the Foundation for Freedom Online and a former official with the U.S. Department of State.www.youtube.com/@MikeBenzCyberOfficialwww.foundationforfreedomonline.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Don’t miss out on all the action this week at DraftKings! Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using https://dkng.co/rogan or through my promo code ROGAN. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY). Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit https://ccpg.org (CT), or visit https://www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD). 21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). Pass-thru of per wager tax may apply in IL. 1 per new customer. Must register new account to receive reward Token. Must select Token BEFORE placing min. $5 bet to receive $300 in Bonus Bets if your bet wins. Min. -500 odds req. Token and Bonus Bets are single-use and non-withdrawable. Bet must settle by and Token expires 2/22/26. Bonus Bets expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 2/15/26 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK. Visit https://squarespace.com/ROGAN to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Joe Rogan podcast checking out.

0:04.0

The Joe Rogan Experience.

0:06.1

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

0:12.1

All right, my friends.

0:13.9

What a day to have you in here, buddy.

0:17.7

Kid in a candy shop.

0:18.7

We hacked the government.

0:20.3

We hacked the government's files, evident. I mean,

0:22.4

this is, we have three and a half million files that it feels like we should not have. It would have been

0:27.8

great to have had seven years ago in 2019 when this was being litigated. But it's an incredible

0:33.7

moment of transparency for how the world works, how governments interact

0:38.6

with the private sector and funds, and it's just really cool to be a part of it.

0:43.3

What was the holdup?

0:45.4

What was the, because it seemed like there was a lot of people that did not want these files

0:49.5

released.

0:50.5

Yeah.

0:51.5

I thought about this a lot.

1:07.3

What we have access to now are internal documents from the Justice Department and the FBI that are normally, even though they're not classified, they are part of a criminal investigation.

1:09.8

And so they're not normally disclosable to the public.

1:16.5

It could be the case that it kind of required a congressional bill to force this out.

1:24.4

Like when you, if there's a internal investigation and it's not a part of a court document that's entered into evidence, you can't just foyer the Justice Department to get dirt on your political enemies because

1:31.8

you think that they might be involved in something.

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