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244 - The James Charles/Kayla Malecc/Evan Johnson Situation Got Even MESSIER + Another TikTok Scammer?

Do We Know Them?

Do We Know Them?

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4.8657 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 130 minutes

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In today's episode, we breakdown the latest in the increasingly messy situation going on with James Charles after he was exposed for allegedly pursuing a relationship with Kayla Malecc's ex-boyfriend, Evan Johnson, who is now officially in jail after being charged for his actions towards Kayla. Between James' response, the new information that has come out about Zack Sellars (the ex-friend of Evan who exposed James and Evan's relationship), and a few other aspects that have come to light.... the situation has only gotten more insane as time goes on. And somehow we still managed to fit in a second topic, which involves Carrie Walls, a TikToker who has faced quite a bit of criticism for how she runs her business...and how she acts in general. 

To hear Kayla's full story, here are the links to her 2 YouTube videos her experience:
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjrfjJwdGqg
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNEh5FdlFqkWe Love the Internets:
https://www.tiktok.com/@sam_salliotte/video/7499831313621470506 
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJZIFtLO6Y_

Watch the full 9-part series from Jessica:
https://www.tiktok.com/@jessicanicolejoslin

00:00 Introduction
1:50 James Charles Responds
1:15:53 More Allegations About Zack Sellars 
1:36:20 Another TikTok Scammer?

We hope you enjoyed this episode! Please let us know on Twitter or Instagram if you have any topic suggestions for next Sunday! (@lily_marston & @jessismiles__)

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome back to Do We Know Them? Episode 24. Feels like 247 for us, am I right?

0:07.2

I was going to say, boy, do we have an episode for you that we have now refilled three times.

0:12.0

Oh my God. No. So you guys might have noticed that our last episode kind of like abruptly ended

0:17.7

and cut to the We Love the Internet. And that's because we had started to do a

0:22.2

James Charles update regarding the situation with him and Caleb Malick and Evan Johnson. But then

0:28.3

that was just covering the Be Better interview that he did. Well, not he did. Um, that Zach Sellers,

0:33.7

who is Evan Johnson's like ex-best friend, he had done an interview exposing James Charles

0:38.3

would be better. It was very like Barbara Walter's style. Since then, James has responded, then

0:43.4

Zach has responded. There's been a lot of developments, you could say. So we had to scrap that

0:48.4

coverage of it. It just seemed way to, like we couldn't just come in with a voiceover,

0:52.2

which was fine because we were going to include it in this episode. Well, an hour into filming Lily's power went out in her room and

1:00.2

we lost all that video. And she could have re-recorded it with her amazing acting skills,

1:04.0

but she's never really done an hour before. It's kind of, you know.

1:07.0

It was going to be a lot, because also I'm not a one take wonder. I need to sum the lines I have to redo. And an hour was going to be a lot. And then we were just going to pretend that, because this is the same thing we were wearing in the latter half of this video. But there's like a few changes. One, I dropped something on my shirt. So it's like kind of fucked up. Also, my nose ring fell out last night. Our makeup isn't the

1:28.2

same. We're like, I don't think we could pull this one off. Let's just let them know we're refilming.

1:31.0

I was like, I'm still wearing it because I haven't got it off. But anyway, we're back. But alas, here we are.

1:44.6

And we will cover this for better or for worse. We will be here and we will cover it. I'm sick of it.

1:50.2

Yes. Where do we begin? Well, there is a lot to cover friend of Evan Johnson, who is Kayla Malick's abuser.

2:02.6

Okay, we have a whole episode on that kind of connection, and we cover Zach's coverage of it,

2:06.6

because he was, I guess you can call him at that time, like, presenting himself as a whistleblower

2:11.6

and like saying, you know, I used to be friends with Evan, but really I was manipulated,

2:14.6

and this is what really happened.

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