This is Jockel Podcast number 244 with Echo Charles and me, Jockel Willink.

Good evening, Echo.

Good evening.

And also joining me tonight is Mike Sirelli and George Randall.

And if you haven't listened to when Mike came on the podcast for the first time, go listen

to that.

It was number 134.

Mike was in tasking a bruiser in the battle of a moddy.

And after that, he did another nine combat deployments.

And he is part of our leadership consultancy, Ashelon Front, where he also heads up our

talent acquisition firm, which is called the EF Overwatch.

Mike, welcome back.

And also George Randall, is an army vet, came up through the ranks from enlisted to officer,

which I guess we all have that in common.

And then left the army for the corporate world where he eventually became a talent acquisition.

Executive.

That sounds impressive.

Always keeping a focus on recruiting veterans and coaching them through the transition

to civilian life.

Now, there's all kinds of things we could talk about.

But today we're going to focus on, well, it's been one of the focuses that we've had

for several years at Ashelon Front.

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