Welcome. You're on air with Ella, where we share simple strategies and tips from people who are doing something better than we are.

Whether it's wellness or relationships to just living better and with more energy or changing your mindset to accomplish more in your own life and succeeding however you define it.

This is where we share the best of what we're learning from the experts,

and we're learning more every day. Live better. Start now. Hey, you're on Airwre Della, and I am joined by,

I don't know, three-time guests, eight-time guests, Andrea Owen, how many times have you been

on the show? I've lost now. 17 times. That's a scientific fact. If you do math, the way Andrea and I do math. Hi, welcome back. Thank you. I'm so excited to talk to you. I miss you since you left me. I know. So you guys, I will link to all the shows that Andrea and I have done together because, frankly, they're a hoot. But Andrea and I both used to live in North Carolina. Of course, neither of us is from there. You lived in California and other places. One of them is Utah. It's too long of a story. We both ended up in North Carolina for some time. And you are there and I left you and moved just outside of D.C. How are you coping? Are you okay? Not well. I told you many times. I don't have very many friends. And I said, I think when you first moved, I said, I've lost 66% of my friends because I had three friends and two of them moved away. And you were one of them. We've done a triathlon together. We have. That was my last one. I retired after that. It was like, I'm done. And it was only a

sprint. For those people listening, it is the shortest. Fastest. Well, your fastest. Definitely not mine.

And I use the word sprint loosely. Oh, I hate it when people call it a, there's another word for it. Oh, they call it a mini triathlon.

I'm like mini my foot like it sprints imply that you're going at some sort of speed. Now,

this is not a triathlon podcast, but if you would like details, DM me. We actually did a podcast

together on my show about how life is so much like triathlons. And we should link to that because it was a

really good show. Okay. I'll add that in. And I promise you don't have to swim bike or run to get some

value out of that show. So thank you for reminding me of that. We've also done a show on Andrea's,

on Andrea's podcast, which is now called Make Some Noise. Is that right, Andrea? Okay. So it was your kick-ass life, if that rings any bells with my OG listeners.

And now it has make some noise.

And there's a reason she has rebranded, which we'll get to.

But we also did a show on aging and the sort of conflict between embracing aging while fighting against it with all of our dollars.

The bottom line, I'll give everybody the very short version of those show notes.

It's complicated.

I will link to all that stuff because those are fun shows if you want to deep dive into our world just a little bit.

And normally, Andrea, I don't normally do so much chit-chat at the top,

but I haven't talked to you and I just needed to catch up with you. But the reason we're talking

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