243 - Dr. Iain McGilchrist - Beyond Materialism - The Matter With Things

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8 • 824 Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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In this long-awaited discussion with Dr. Iain McGilchrist I ask him several questions about his work. We discuss the medieval worldview, the Renaissance, participation and transformation, and what he thinks is the way forward and the role of religion. We also talk about the processual aspect of creation, the role of the body in Christianity and the restorative magic of attending. Enjoy. Original video: https://youtu.be/QyBXqcgLAXs Dr. McGilchrist’s books: - The Matter With Things: Our Brains, Our Delusions and the Unmaking of the World: https://www.amazon.com/Matter-Things-Brains-Delusions-Unmaking/dp/1914568060/ - The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World: https://www.amazon.com/Master-His-Emissary-Divided-Western/dp/0300245920/ ========================== - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. My website designers, Anomalist Design: https://www.anomalistdesign.com/

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0:00.0	There is an immediate reflex in many people's minds now to shut down as soon as one mentions
0:05.2	religion. And in this country, which is a godless country compared with America and no doubt
0:12.6	Canada, if you ask people, do they belong to a religion? About 13% of them say that they do.
0:20.3	So 87% are not.
0:22.5	But if you ask people, do you think there's more to this life and to this world
0:27.6	than is accounted for in the reductionist materialist picture?
0:31.1	95% of them say yes.
0:33.1	So people are missing something extremely powerful.
0:37.1	And what is wonderful in what you said,
0:40.2	and I completely endorse and have written about in a number of places,
0:45.4	is this idea of being attracted forwards to something that we wish to imitate.
0:51.3	And it's in complete contrast to the mechanistic universe in which we are the play things
0:57.0	of causality.
0:58.0	This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world.
1:22.8	Before we start, maybe I think that I would really like to...
1:26.6	Most of your interviews I've seen
1:28.3	have been very much about the brain and about the left-right hemispheres.
1:33.6	But when I read, I haven't read your recent book.
1:36.2	I read the master and the cemetery.
1:38.8	You can be forgiven for not reading the latest one rather long.
1:44.0	So a large part of the book does discuss art and art history and culture.
1:50.4	And I think, of course, that's the aspect of your work that interests me the most.
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