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Of all the bomb cases that you worked on, which do you think, in your personal opinion, was the most significant?

Well, to me personally, it was the

Oklahoma City bombing. You know, this, it was my backyard. I mentioned yesterday, my, my wife left the

building two minutes before that nation. We knew people that didn't survive. I'm still privileged to give a lot

of talks down at the National Memorial and Museum here in Oklahoma City and still talk with

survivors and victims' families.

And just on a personal level, that I would say is the most important to me.

I'm Steve Murphy, DEA Special Agent Retired and now host of the Game of Crimes podcast.

If you've seen the Netflix series Narcos, then you know my story.

I now bring you stories of heroism and bravery from our law enforcement

and military heroes and occasionally from the criminals that they faced. Welcome to Game of Crimes. You came back to the right place.

This is part two of this week's episode of Game of Crimes with Murph in the Morning.

Appreciate your folks coming back.

And if you listen to yesterday's episode, we were interviewing Barry Black, retired FBI agent, 31 years experience, who was not only an accountant, an fraud investigator and a white collar crime specialist, but then became a member of the SWAT team for the FBI, then became a sniper for the SWAT team.

And that wasn't exciting enough. So he became a bomb technician.

I can remember being a kid and almost blowing my fingers off with firecrackers.

I mean, being a bomb tech, holy cow, Barry.

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