If you've ever felt confused by how Jesus did everything for everyone and saved people and

helped them and yet you can never do enough to feel like enough, then today's episode is for you.

If you've ever felt like you're not sure how to be a good Christian and also take care of your own needs,

today's episode is also for you.

I'm so excited to share with you the many examples

I've found in the scriptures of how Jesus was not a codependent. Also, really quickly, if you find

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I'm so excited about today's episode because it's something that I've studied and thought about.

And I look at the gospel of Jesus Christ through this lens because it's kind of my thing.

And I totally overprepared for this today.

But I'm really excited to share.

I feel like I'm the Sunday school teacher that prepared three hours of information for like a 45 minute slot of time. But we'll get through whatever we can and I'm just super excited to share. So the topic is Jesus was not a codependent and why we sometimes confuse Christianity with codependency.

So Neil was a little bit reluctant to do this episode with me because this is like my jam.

And then will you tell from your perspective what your hesitation was.

I'm a codependent.

So I need to take the course.

So actually I have been listening to them. They're awesome. It's an talking, I need to take the course. So actually, I have been listening

to them. They're awesome. It's an amazing. The boot camp's really good. But no, I think in thinking

about codependence, like I learned early on in my personal recovery journey in my outpatient program

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