This is Jockel Podcast number 240 with Echo Charles and me, Jockel Willink.

Good evening Echo. Good evening. And also joining us tonight once again.

Dave Burke, good evening Dave. Good evening.

All right, last podcast, which was podcast 239 in case you couldn't subtract one from 240.

And I suppose we should give out some kind of shout out to the 240 Gulf.

I don't know why, but we should shout out to all you machine gunners out there that ran that 240 Gulf.

Last podcast 239 we covered the first edition of combat lessons, rank and file in combat,

what they do and how they do it. That was number one.

And you know, to be honest, when I got done with that one, I said, yeah, that's cool.

But there's, but there's more of them. And I kind of thought to myself, you know, well, how many combat lessons are there?

I remember this is 240 podcasts worth of combat lessons.

But I was leaning towards, hey, probably not going to cover more of these things because there are more of them.

And then I started reading number two. And as I read number two, kind of out of the gate section one, which is called leadership.

And you just get, you just restart reading it. And before I knew it, I couldn't stop.

And there's more lessons, more perspectives, more angles, some more knowledge to make us better.

And I was really coming at this one. I was really thinking about life a lot, all aspects of life.

And I think it's the opening of this that gave me that sort of mindset going through it.

I was thinking about life, the parallels are everywhere.

All right, let's go to the book. And I think Dave, coming out of the gate, you're going to realize where I got so sucked into this thing just out of the gate.

So the first section, like I said, it's called leadership. And then, and then the first subsection is leaders versus inertia.

I was already, I was, you had me at inertia, as they say, Lieutenant Colonel, our E. O'Brien cavalry observer with the Fifth Army in Italy. Here's what he says.

In spite of the fact that I observed many interesting things in practice, in the practice of tactics and technique, still the one lesson that stands out my mind above all others is the one that is so well known by military men, that its statement here amounts to little more than a platitude.

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