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This is John Batchel, speaking with William Talbman, Professor William Talbot of Amherst College,

about his new book with his brother Philip Talbman, McNamara at War. And here the professor recounts an episode, 1967-68,

in which McNamara traveled to Harvard Yard to speak to professors and students and encountered an anti-war mob, as the professor says.

And what happened next is surprising to everyone,

including Harvard.

William Talbot, McNamara at War, 1968. A long time ago, and yet I remembered vividly. More of this tonight. Very muted, and a a great question so when i speak to these groups john

i usually have like planning meetings with the organizers because i have a lot of things to stuff

into an hour and i always ask them like before i even like get in front of this group do you want me

to spend 15 20 minutes on tariffs and, you know, and some thoughts on

navigating your way around it? And for all of those places that I just mentioned, John, the, the

builders, the building materials places, the corrugated boxes, the machine parts people,

all the beating organizers said, yeah, well, our members are directly impacted, indirectly

impacted by tariffs.

So they're seeing some increase in their prices.

But in all honesty, there's not a lot they can do, you know.

It's not like they're, you know, these are smaller domestic companies.

There's not a lot of people that are buying huge amounts of goods from overseas.

That doesn't mean they're not buying from domestic sources that bought from overseas and

therefore are passing down prices.

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