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REAL

24 Hour Podcast: Working Behind Bars with Kaigan Carrie

REAL

Naomi Channell

Society & Culture, News, Documentary, True Crime

4.8725 Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

On the 17th of May, I hosted a 24 hour live podcast to raise money for Victim Support UK.

In this session, we hear from Kaigan Carrie, who is currently studying for her PHD, focusing on the working conditions of prison officers. It's a part of the justice system we don't hear of often and in this session, Kaigan gives us insight into the lives of some of the prison officers she's met and how we can support them.

To follow Kaigan's work and to listen to her podcast 'Evolving Prisons', you can do so here: https://www.evolvingprisons.com/

If you would like to donate to the fundraiser, you can do so here:

https://www.justgiving.com/page/24hourpodcast

Thank you.

NB: Please not this audio has been taken from the live stream, so the quality is not as polished as the regular episodes of 'REAL', though I hope you will find the conversations as insightful and interesting as I did.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Warning, this is a true crime podcast and is not suitable for all audiences. Please use discretion.

0:07.6

Just a quick note to say that this episode is not the typical format of the real podcast.

0:13.6

On the 17th of May 2025, I did a 24-hour live podcast to raise money for an incredible charity, Victim Support UK. The stream was

0:24.6

recorded and each session that took place has been edited into an episode for you to listen to.

0:31.7

Because this was a live stream, the sound quality is not as polished as the regular episodes of the podcast usually are.

0:41.0

But I hope you'll find the conversations as insightful and interesting as I did.

0:47.0

If you'd like to donate to the fundraiser, please find a link in the show notes.

0:52.2

I am excited to introduce you to the lovely Kagan. So Kagan is

0:56.7

studying criminology and has a strong interest in the prison system, especially the working

1:01.8

conditions that prison officers face in today's modern society. This is often a side of the

1:08.8

justice system that we don't frequently hear about. Kagan's podcast

1:12.7

evolving prisons offers really unique insight into this area and in this session she's going to be

1:18.9

talking us through some of the things that she has learned. Oh Kagan it's so lovely to see you. How are you

1:25.5

doing today? And what have you been up to recently? I'm good,

1:29.5

Naomi. Thank you for having me and what you're doing is incredible. I'm actually in Scotland

1:34.8

just now doing some prison research, so it's quite apt that we're having this conversation.

1:39.5

So what are you, are you allowed to say sort of what you're doing at the moment?

1:43.1

I can see what I'm doing.

1:44.3

I can't see the prisons.

1:45.5

But for my PhD research, I'm going into some prisons in Scotland and Finland.

1:49.9

And I am speaking to prison officers about how the work impacts their life satisfaction.

1:57.1

That's amazing.

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