Warning, this is a true crime podcast and is not suitable for all audiences. Please use discretion.

Just a quick note to say that this episode is not the typical format of the real podcast.

On the 17th of May 2025, I did a 24-hour live podcast to raise money for an incredible charity, Victim Support UK. The stream was

recorded and each session that took place has been edited into an episode for you to listen to.

Because this was a live stream, the sound quality is not as polished as the regular episodes of the podcast usually are.

But I hope you'll find the conversations as insightful and interesting as I did.

If you'd like to donate to the fundraiser, please find a link in the show notes.

So welcome everyone. We have a real treat.

The True Crime podcast fans everywhere.

So this session is a podcaster's discussion session where myself and some of the finest

voices in True Crime will be talking about one of America's most baffling missing

persons cases, a case that many people frequently talk about online and a case that has a very loved

missing man right at the centre of it. And it's the case of Brian Schaefer. So joining me to relay

the details in this very sad case is the wonderful Mark from the Seeing Red podcast, the

gorgeous Dawn from Scottish Murders podcast and two fabulous women, Hannah and Kate, from the Don't Tell the Mum podcast. I almost said don't tell the mum, because I used to work on Don't Tell the Bride. And every time I see your, every time I see it, it just reminds me of all the literature and stuff I used to have on all of my signature and stuff. Don't blame the mum

podcast. Don't blame the mum. Don't blame the mum. What a treat. Thank you all so much for giving

up your Saturday night. Talk to me for this charity stream. So let's hear from you all. So Mark,

how are you? Let's just have a little introduction to you. So why are you a true crime podcaster? Tell us all. So Mark, how are you? Let's just have a little introduction to you. So why are you a

true crime podcaster? Tell us all. I think I was exposed to the true crime world quite young

when my mom allowed me to stay up late to watch Crime Watch. So possibly something you shouldn't have done when I was probably seven years old.

And it just sparked something in me, fascination with, particularly cases such as Brian Schaffers

that are unexplained.

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