24: 1619 Project with Nicole Hannah-Jones
Jen Rubin's Green Room
Jen Rubin's Green Room
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🗓️ 25 October 2023
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Get More From This Week’s Guests:
Nicole Hannah-Jones:
Twitter | NYT | Howard University | Center for Journalism & Democracy | Instagram | Hulu’s The 1619 Project | Ida B. Wells Society | Author
Get More From Jennifer Rubin:
Twitter | WaPo | Author of “Resistance: How Women Saved Democracy From Donald Trump”
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Jen Rubin, and this is Jen Rubin's Green Room. |
| 0:14.5 | We talk on this program about several themes. One is race, another is the failure of journalism, another is our moment of |
| 0:27.2 | a democratic threat that is posed by a party that has given up on democracy, that has given up |
| 0:33.6 | on objective reality. And rarely do we have a way of kind of tying all of those |
| 0:40.1 | disparate trends together. And in fact, there is a way in which they connect. And our guest today |
| 0:48.6 | has done more than any other person I'm aware to understand how race, how the mainstream media, |
| 0:57.5 | how history, how democracy are interacting at this specific moment in time. |
| 1:03.6 | And let's be honest, we are at an absolute danger point. |
| 1:08.2 | We are 13 months away from an election in which the guy who tried to overthrow |
| 1:13.6 | the last election is going to be on the ballot and could possibly win. When we say it out loud, |
| 1:20.2 | I still find it mind-boggling that we could be in this position, but that is true. |
| 1:24.8 | We're in a position where one party has given up on governance, has given up on trying to be responsive to the voters. And so we are really at a precarious point. And unfortunately, our government and even Democrats don't seem to be fully aware of the threat, and worse, the mainstream media does not, and is, I would argue, compounding the problem with a false sense of objectivity, a false sense of balance, a feigned refusal to understand what Trump and his movement is all about. |
| 2:05.3 | So I think the person to help us make sense of this is the author of the 1619 project, |
| 2:12.5 | the really groundbreaking work that took us back to the origins of America long before 1776 and really traces |
| 2:20.5 | the way in which race has always defined America, its high points, its low points, and how we |
| 2:29.0 | come to terms with our past, which is really a monumental question that is more appropriate now than ever. |
| 2:37.9 | So I'm delighted to have on the program, Nicole Hannah-Jones. |
| 2:43.0 | And without further ado, Nicole, welcome to the show. |
| 2:46.3 | Thank you so much. |
| 2:47.9 | It's great to have you here. |
| 2:50.2 | Your 1619 was really a, I think, historic |
| 2:54.4 | breakthrough in both history and in political debate. But today I specifically want to focus |
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