What's up everybody? This is Cortland from AndyHackers.com and you're listening to the

EndieHackers podcast. More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a lot

of money in the process. And on this show, I sit down with these endy hackers to discuss the ideas,

the opportunities and the strategies they're taking advantage of so the rest of us can do the same.

I'm here with Lee Jen. Lee, how's it going?

Good. It's nice to be here again. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, it's nice to have you. I think you were last on the show in February of this year.

It's about 10 months ago. And I think I introduced you as the patron saint of the passion economy back then.

So the passion economy, very similar to the creator economy. It's this sort of explosion of individuals moving on to the internet

and making a living online by creating things, whether it's YouTube videos or tweets or blog posts or courses. But since then, you've had a lot of stuff going on. You've raised a lot of money, you've been investing more money than ever. You've been at The New York Times, you're really cool sort of huge profile on you, and they called you the investor guru for online creators. So maybe that's your new title.

What was that experience like? They also called me the it girl in venture capital, which

which people have really glommed on to hilariously. The it girl in venture capital. It's

a lot. It felt nerve-wracking and exciting. It's one of those moments that I think you never even allow yourself to envision

can happen because it's just so far-fetched and it feels like, you know, how many people

really get the privilege of being profiled in such a international forum like that. But it was

an awesome experience. I did it remotely. I was calling in from Greece,

Athens at the time. Taylor Lorenz wrote it up. She is an amazing reporter who I've learned so

much from over the past few years. I think she's really on the cutting edge of writing a lot about

the topics that I care about, but from a news angle.

And so it was just really, really such an honor and a privilege to be written about by her.

What is that process like of being profiled by like a huge newspaper?

Is it like an arduous thing or is it like super quick, efficient like a podcast recording?

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