This is Jocco Podcast number 238 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink.

Good evening Echo.

So you may have heard me tell a story in the past about a training tool that we used

for young seal officers.

This special training tool was a stick.

Not to hit them with, but to give them to hold in place of their weapon, in place of

their gun if they couldn't detach from their instinct to shoot and replace that instinct

with an instinct to lead.

Because the leader's job is not to engage the enemy.

The leader's job is to make tactical decisions to direct the troops, find the next move that

we're going to take.

The leader's job is to actually lead.

There is a story, another story of an ancient Chinese military leader who on the eve of

battle was offered a sword from his subordinate leaders, which he did not accept.

No, I don't want your sword.

I don't want that sword.

Because to him banners, banners and drums, which is how you would signal back in the

day.

This is how you would direct troops during this time period.

He was the tools of a leader for him, and he said to them to command the troops and direct

their blades is the role of a commander.

To wield a single sword is not his role.

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