Hi, I'm Sarah Ellis and this is the Squiggly Careers podcast, where every week we discuss a different topic to do with work and share some ideas, actions and advice that we hope will help you and us to navigate our squiggly careers with confidence and control.

This episode is part of our fourth Ask the Expert series.

We're covering a really great range of what I hope are very relevant topics, including

uncertainty, influence, storytelling, success and leadership.

And in this episode, you'll hear my conversation with journalist and writer Oliver

Berkman on Time.

Time is just one of those topics that I feel like we all talk about, worry about,

want to discover how to have more of, how to use it in a better way.

And Oliver's new book, 4,000 weeks, Time and How to Use It, is brilliant.

Just a great mix of practical, pragmatic and philosophical, which I think is

very unusual. And Adam Grant has described it as the go-to book on time management, which is

some kudos. And I followed Oliver's writing since he used to write for The Guardian on things

like productivity for a long time. And I feel like he's used this book to bring all of his experience and wisdom and learning

together into one place into a really accessible and enjoyable read.

And I would imagine that everyone who reads it will benefit from it in some way, shape or

form.

All of our episodes in this series are supported by the uncertainty experts.

And this is a three-part interactive documentary that's designed to increase resilience and

decrease anxiety.

I took part in the pilot and if you've listened to the uncertainty episode, you will have

heard me talk to Sam and Catherine about it.

And I can tell you it was a learning experience like no other.

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