This is Jockel Podcast number 236 with Echo Charles and me, Jockel Willink.

Good evening, Echo. Good evening. When I went through basic seal training, there were two people

recognized with an award at the end of training. The first award was for the

Honor Man. And the Honor Man is the guy in the class. I think it's for the best

sort of overall performance, which is mostly physical. Running, swimming,

obstacle course, pull-ups, sit-ups, whatever. Whatever other physical

events you do, life-saving and not tying and buddy breathing and pool

competency, you kind of have to just do good at everything and not just good.

You have to do really good at everything. It seems like the Honor Man is going to be

one of those people who did some kind of athletics in high school, maybe even

college. In my class, the Honor Man was a complete badass. His name was Keith

Camira, total stud. And I don't remember everything about Buds, but I

remember that he won just about everything. Although there was one other guy

that was always right there with him, but somehow Keith must have edged him

out enough times to become the Honor Man. I never was close enough to the

front of the pack to know which of those two guys won, but obviously it must

have been Keith. Because he was just pretty much savaged at everything. And even

after seal training, he pushed himself hard, tried to maintain that edge. And

after his first tour at a team, he went back to Buds to be an instructor. And on

January 10th, 1997, Keith was practicing breath holds during an evolution with

the students and the dive tower. And the other instructors were, they were

working with the students and they were running the evolution and they weren't

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