Hello and welcome to Outration Optimism, I'm Tom Rivik Karnak and I'm Paul Dickinson.

This week we're going to be talking about the farmer protests around the world, what's behind

them and what can be done about them. Plus we have music from Olivia Fern. Thanks for

being here. And soo, the So PD no Christiana this week, although that's not a hundred percent sure she may drop in at any point in the next 45 minutes.

I'm sure she's mysterious and marvelous in the

in a meeting of consequential importance

above our pay grade, but we will struggle on

and address this week's topic.

But before we do, I would just like to say a big thank you to

listeners last week we delved in of course as regular as we'll remember into the

issue of 1.5 degrees whether we can hold that target, what the issues are around it.

We of course pointed out that this is a moment of enormous peril, but we also looked at the issues

around whether we can actually try and hold that line and if so, how we would do that. and we had a lot of messages from people a lot of

people wrote to us on social media wrote to us directly with different perspectives

was really interesting to see your insights thank you That level of engagement makes us very happy.

Paul, any comments on that?

Yeah, I know, I mean, I think it was a great episode and a great discussion. I read many of the comments and my one reflection here is not to

revisit that whole debate but to just reassure any listeners that at no time, I think,

were any of us suggesting that we should take the climate crisis less seriously. We absolutely have to

communicate to the whole world that we're engaged in a in a gigantic

existential challenge and that communication must persist and rise in its

intensity and I think we all agree with that. The discussion was a little bit more

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