233. The Thorny Issue of 1.5C
Outrage + Optimism
Persephonica
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 22 February 2024
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
1.5C degrees is back in the news again as the recent Copernicus report reported that the world had exceeded this politically agreed temperature limit for the majority of 2023. But what does this mean? Do we abandon this target and set a new one? Is it still useful to use this as our north star in tackling the effects of man-made climate change? Is now the right time to start a serious conversation about geo-engineering? Join Christiana, Tom and Paul as they grapple with these difficult questions and their wider implications.
Our guest this week is Dr. Michael E. Mann, Presidential Distinguished Professor of Earth & Environmental Science, and Director of the Penn Center for Science, Sustainability and the Media (PCSSM) at the University of Pennsylvania. He lends us his expertise to discuss the liabilities and implications of breaching the 1.5 degree ceiling, and what his latest legal victory means for the ‘war on science’.
Music comes from Luke Wallace with his song ‘Comeback’. Luke is a songwriter, speaker, choral arranger and environmental champion from the Coast Salish Territory known as Vancouver, Canada.
NOTES AND RESOURCES
The O+O episode with Elizabeth Kolbert where we discuss the possible implications of Geo-Engineering explored in her book ‘Under A White Sky’ can be found here.
GUEST
Dr. Michael E. Mann, Presidential Distinguished Professor of Earth & Environmental Science, and Director of the Penn Center for Science, Sustainability and the Media (PCSSM) at the University of Pennsylvania
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Check out Dr. Mann’s new book, ‘Our Fragile Moment: How Lessons from Earth's Past Can Help Us Survive the Climate Crisis’
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Luke Wallace
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Our Agent Optimism. I'm Paul deaconson. |
| 0:15.0 | This week we are going to outrage and I'm Paul deacons. |
| 0:18.0 | This week we are going to grapple with the issue of 1.5 degrees. |
| 0:22.0 | Can it be saved? Is it still alive? Is it time to give up on it? We're going to look at the |
| 0:25.2 | science and think about it from different perspectives. We're also going to talk to Michael Mann, |
| 0:29.2 | distinguished climate scientist, and we have music from Luke Wallace. |
| 0:32.6 | Thanks for being here. So friends we have a lot to get into this is a very consequential and |
| 0:49.6 | important episode but just before we do |
| 0:52.0 | Christina your three-part mini an episode, but just before we do. |
| 0:52.6 | Christina, your three-part miniseries on living |
| 0:56.8 | from, with, and as nature was a masterpiece. |
| 1:00.6 | I absolutely loved it. |
| 1:01.5 | I finished the final episode this morning, on the train back to Devon from London and just loved it. I think that I also think Clay did a brilliant job of shaping the music and making it all feel brilliant job. The music was beautiful. It was wonderful. It was wonderful. |
| 1:15.2 | It was wonderful. |
| 1:16.2 | Congratulations. Well thank you. It was a definitely team effort both with Isabel and her team but also the whole editing and production. |
| 1:27.2 | Anyone who hasn't listened to it should go and listen. |
| 1:29.2 | I have one tiny complaint and that is you do this beautiful bit about the role of the pandemic |
| 1:33.7 | in reconnecting us to nature. You don't mention the fact that I wrote a children's book about it with |
| 1:38.6 | an accompanying TED Talk. I was waiting for my shout out and it didn't come. |
| 1:41.8 | I am so apologetic. |
| 1:43.7 | Did you write a children's book about that |
| 1:46.6 | with an accompanying TED Talk? |
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