#233 - Ask-Me-Anything: Marketing with Janice Greenwald
The Startup CPG Podcast
Startup CPG
4.9 • 642 Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2026
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the Startup CPG Podcast, host Daniel Scharff reunites with fractional CMO Janice Greenwald to tackle the most frequently asked marketing questions from the 33,000+ member Startup CPG Slack community. From social media strategy to packaging design, PR investment to budget allocation, Janice brings 20 years of CPG marketing experience to answer the real questions early-stage brands are asking.
Janice breaks down the multifaceted nature of social media—it's not just posting photos, it's content creation, graphic design, copywriting, influencer outreach, brand partnerships, and potentially paid media. She shares why small agencies can sometimes offer better value than freelancers through economies of scale, recommending specific partners like Steph Nash Marketing for creative content and Gawronski Media for paid ads. The conversation challenges conventional wisdom around investing in social media and PR at launch, with Janice emphasizing that these are long-term brand-building tools, not immediate sales drivers—and why 60-70% of your marketing budget should focus on velocity if that's your primary objective.
Throughout the episode, Janice shares hard-earned lessons from the trenches: packaging structure mistakes at Sabra that cost hundreds of thousands in custom molds, why chip brands need air-filled bags to compete on shelf presence, how to maximize shelf space by actually measuring retail dimensions with a tape measure, and why you should always design beverage packaging for the side that will be merchandised (not the pretty side). She discusses the "rule of sevens" for brand awareness, explains why PR is better suited for investor and buyer visibility than consumer sales, and reveals her philosophy that specialists working fractionally often deliver better results than generalist full-time hires at similar costs.
Whether you're allocating your first marketing budget, choosing between agencies and freelancers, designing packaging that actually works on shelf, or deciding if social media and PR are worth the investment, this episode delivers honest, tactical guidance from someone who's made the mistakes so you don't have to.
Listen in as they discuss:
- The hidden complexity of social media: content creation, copywriting, community management, influencer outreach, and paid media aren't one person's job
- Why small agencies can beat freelancers: economies of scale when photographers run multiple brands through the same seasonal sets
- Should you invest in social media early? Yes for brand building, but balance with velocity-driving tactics based on your budget
- The 10% rule: most brands allocate around 10% of net revenue to marketing (excluding trade spend), though startups may invest more upfront
- PR for early brands: better for investor/buyer visibility than consumer sales—don't expect immediate ROI from lifestyle press
- Trade publications you can pitch yourself: reach out directly to Bevnet, Nosh, Food Navigator writers without an agency
- Packaging structure mistakes: the Sabra salsa bowl that didn't merchandise well and the lettuce container that couldn't pack out a case
- The chip bag paradox: you need air to compete visually on shelf even if it feels wasteful
Episode Links:
Janice Greenwald
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janice-greenwald-marketing-consultant/
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Friends, did you know that a party has been going on this whole time with 35,000 people and you're invited? |
| 0:09.0 | It's our Startup CPG Slack. |
| 0:11.0 | You hear about it all the time on here, and if you haven't yet joined in, this is your moment. |
| 0:16.0 | Take out your phone, type in Startupcg.com, and then click to join our community you'll be at the party you'll |
| 0:23.1 | hear about all our events you'll get in front of buyers investors brands whatever's most important |
| 0:28.7 | to you we have such big plans ahead but you got to be in the community to hear about all of it see you on the |
| 0:34.7 | slack of it. See you on the Slack. |
| 1:11.1 | You want to maximize your shelf, right? But you also need to leave slack. You have to look at how the lighting is going to hit your product, like everything about it. I have just seen so many, so many instances where a product could have done better if they had maximized their space differently or knew how they were going to be merchandise. Like if you were in the freezer, you're going to be in the door or you're going to be in the |
| 1:13.6 | well. Like there's these different things and you have to know how you're going to show up in |
| 1:17.4 | order to know how to maximize your product. |
| 1:21.8 | Welcome friends to the Startup CPG podcast. On today's episode, we are talking through |
| 1:26.8 | some of the most frequently asked questions |
| 1:29.0 | on our 33,000 person Slack channel. I love these Ask Me Anythings because it gives us the chance |
| 1:34.8 | to really learn together. Some of these meaty questions that are so relevant for early stage |
| 1:40.0 | brands, we're going to talk through them with one of the marketers that I respect most, Janice Greenwald. |
| 1:45.4 | She is in the trenches with brands all the time. Today we're talking through what is the role |
| 1:50.3 | of social media and PR for growing brands? Should you be spending money on it in the early stages |
| 1:55.8 | and what should you be trying to accomplish? We also talk about how do you vet freelancers and |
| 2:00.7 | agencies? How should |
| 2:02.1 | you set your marketing budget? How should you choose your packaging? How should you build out your |
| 2:07.0 | marketing team when you're looking at full-time people or contractors? So much good stuff in today's |
| 2:12.5 | discussion. I know you're going to love it. Here we go. Welcome, everybody. Got a question. I'll help in a |
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