Hi, I'm Stage and Stages Lin Manuel Miranda, and you're listening to The Hamilcast.

Butts and cuts and, and boots and... Hello everyone welcome back to the hamelcast I'm Jill. Tonight it is a heat wave in New York City,

but I'm here virtually with Alex Horwitz,

who's the director of the documentary Hamilton's America.

Hello, it's good to virtually be here.

Yeah, hey Alex.

You know, usually I would never like allow you to come over in this heat. Right. Well that then it's good that there's a pandemic and we're separated by space so we can just

for this reason alone. That that was going to be the plan anyway so nothing's different.

The universe always has my back Alex as you know so that's horrible that's not the case.

So yeah the Hamiltoc, it's America and you you're an editor. the you don't mind. I'll just drink. Yeah okay great. We'll get to that in a second. You made an

award-winning zombie like horror short film called Alice Jacobs is Dead

which is very relevant to today's times which I don't think you planned.

Yeah kind of I didn't know at the time, but it actually was a documentary.

But we'll, we can get into that.

And you also edited Joe Burlinger's Whitey Bulger documentary,

which I covered on True Crime Obsessed, which is my other podcast and my real job where we recap

true crime documentaries but everybody who listens knows this so I'm going to stop talking about

true crime.

Well we can that's a whole other podcast to talk about the Whitey documentary.

I know yes I did so yeah so before we dive into your entire story which I'm so excited about

we have a cocktail here that you are kind of at the helm of and I love this because Jonah was over

Jonah Moran the editor of the Hamill film and he sort of took the reins with his

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