I always got the backhanded compliment my entire career too.

Always the underdog, always the youngest, always picked on.

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Oh. Let it out. Let it out. Hi, welcome back.

You're listening to Let It Out with me. I'm the host, Katie Dillbout, and I have long

conversations with fascinating people every week. And this week, I talk to two fascinating people.

First up on the podcast, we have Candice Kumai. She's an author. She's a chef. We recorded this

conversation a couple weeks ago at the podcasting studio from the Wing in Brooklyn.

Candice has a somewhat new book out all about her Japanese heritage and culture and wellness. It's beautiful. She took the photography herself.

There's even a Japanese travel guide in the back.

I love flipping through this book. And we talk a bit about the book in this episode, but not

very much. We talk about her career, making a career of cooking, being the youngest

contestant on the first season of Top Chef. We talk about her connection to her Japanese

culture, our ancestry, and how that relates to food and our relationship to it. We talk about

diversity and wellness. We talk about breakup. She went through a really challenging breakup right

before her last book came out. We talk about social media

influencers and her complicated relationship to social media and her phone and technology.

And speaking of, I want to talk about an app called Little Space. If you've been listening

for a while or the last couple weeks, you know about Lilspace.

It's an app that helps us unplug from technology and rewards us for doing so.

It works really simply.

All you do is download the free app and it helps you track your time spent unplugged from your device.

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