Hey everyone and welcome back to Big Mad True Crime where we get Big Mad over True Crime.

I'm your host Heather Ashley and today you'll be hearing part two of the eight passengers case.

If you haven't listened to Thursday's episode you absolutely need to listen to that one

before listening to this one because you need all of the context. So definitely make sure you

listen to that episode before diving into this one. A whole 0% of you are here to listen to me

and my small talk or lack thereof. Anywho so let's go ahead and dive in.

Thursday's episode left off in April of either 2022 or 2023 but I think it's 2022. When neighbors

of the Frankie family started noticing the absence of the younger Frankie children while

those neighbors noticed their absence neighbors in Ivan's Utah started noticing their presence.

These were neighbors of none other than Jody freaking Hilda Brandt the queen of connections

hater of one star reviews one of Jody's neighbors told the Daily Mail that one day six to eight

weeks prior to the event that led to criminal charges so six to eight weeks prior to August 30th

of this year they saw a bunch of kids out picking weeds outside of Jody's house and houses not

exactly how I'd personally choose to describe her fortress. It's listed online as being 5,000

square feet with only three bedrooms but five and a half baths. Those rooms have to be massive to

fill up 5,000 square feet and this place looks like a fancy above ground dungeon. It's one story

above ground but looks like it may be made out of concrete in this sprawling massive rooms with

maybe a courtyard in the middle and is listed at over three million dollars. The home is in a

neighborhood but the neighborhood is pretty spread out and homes are a good walking distance away

from one another. You've got massive red rocks in the background and sporadic brush on the grounds.

This neighbor said she saw children picking weeds but I don't know what a weed would even look

like in that area compared to what does manage to survive out there. The neighbor told the Daily

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