#225 - Amazon vs. Your Own Website: The Great eCommerce Debate with Daybreak Agency and Gawronski Media
The Startup CPG Podcast
Startup CPG
4.9 • 642 Ratings
🗓️ 2 December 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the Startup CPG Podcast, host Daniel Scharff moderates a friendly debate between two ecommerce experts: Rugved Nakadi from Daybreak Agency (Amazon specialists) and Kevin Gawronski from Gawronski Media (DTC paid media). The conversation explores the critical question every emerging brand faces: should you prioritize building your own Shopify website or launching on Amazon first—and what are the real trade-offs of each channel?
The discussion reveals how both platforms offer distinct advantages depending on your brand stage, category demand, and resources. Rugved explains why Amazon's high-intent search traffic and fast path to market validation make it ideal for emerging brands testing product-market fit, while Kevin champions the long-term value of owning customer data, building lifetime relationships, and maintaining full control over your brand experience on DTC. Through real examples and honest admissions about each platform's limitations, both experts break down the economics, customer acquisition strategies, and operational realities of scaling on Amazon versus Shopify.
Throughout the episode, listeners gain practical frameworks for evaluating which channel to prioritize first, understanding CAC/LTV economics, navigating platform fees and fulfillment costs, and building sustainable growth strategies. Whether you're pre-launch or scaling across multiple channels, this conversation offers clarity on leveraging both platforms strategically while avoiding costly mistakes like chasing every trend or stretching resources too thin.
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Daybreak Agency: https://www.daybreak.agency/startupcpg-grow-with-daybreak and https://www.linkedin.com/company/daybreak-growth-partners/
Gawronski Media: https://gawronskimedia.com/contact-us/
Listen in as they discuss:
- DTC vs. Amazon: control and customer ownership vs. speed to market and validation
- Why emerging brands often find faster wins on Amazon (and when DTC makes more sense)
- The economics breakdown: referral fees, FBA costs, CAC, LTV, and conversion rates
- How Amazon's purchase-intent search reduces risk for new product launches
- Building customer relationships: email lists and first-party data vs. Subscribe & Save
- The review challenge: getting to 30-50 reviews on Amazon vs. social proof on DTC
- Platform risks: copycats, algorithm changes, and operational nightmares on both sides
- Why AI is transforming DTC creative production and operational efficiency
- Strategic use of both channels: when customers check Amazon after seeing DTC ads
- Fundamental success factors: great branding, solving real problems, and staying focused
Episode Links
Daybreak Agency (Amazon)
Website: https://www.daybreakagency.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/daybreak-agency
Gawronski Media (DTC Paid Media)
Website: https://www.gawronskimedia.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gawronski-media
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| 0:00.0 | A few years back when I ran a beverage company, we had to launch using those plastic sleeves to put our designs on the cans. |
| 0:08.0 | But they looked bad, the sleeves get stretched out, they don't cover the full can, and overall they just look and feel low quality. |
| 0:14.0 | Lucky for you, digital can printing technology has come so far over the last few years that now you can launch your beverage brand or new skews with a fully |
| 0:21.7 | printed look and it's at similar pricing to those plastic sleeves. |
| 0:25.3 | Our friends at CanWorks, which is the largest U.S.-based digital can printer, are happy to work with |
| 0:30.1 | our community at very low minimums, even one palette. |
| 0:32.9 | They've got locations in the East Coast, the West Coast, Texas. |
| 0:36.0 | Get in touch with them through our contact form. |
| 0:38.2 | It's at canworksprinting.com slash startup CPG. |
| 0:42.7 | Thank you. When we work with brands, the first thing is, like, number one is who is the consumer? |
| 1:04.0 | Because unlike Amazon, where it's only people typing and looking for stuff in high search intent, like, the platforms we're going to be advertising on 100% depend on who the consumer is. |
| 1:14.6 | So if you're targeting 60 plus, we're not dumping all of our money into TikTok reels with influencers, obviously. |
| 1:20.4 | So really it's understanding who is the consumer, what is your price point? |
| 1:24.8 | Why are they buying these products? |
| 1:27.8 | Welcome everybody today on the Start startup CPG podcast, two experts enter. Only one platform wins. |
| 1:34.8 | Or maybe they both do. The question is, should you invest in your own Shopify store or in Amazon's vast jungle? |
| 1:41.8 | So today we're pitting two of our partners against each other. We've |
| 1:44.6 | got Rugvid from Daybreak Agency. They are our go-to-am-to-am partner. And we've got Kevin |
| 1:49.7 | from Goransky Media. They are our go-to partner for growing your own website sales through |
| 1:54.6 | paid media, you know, Google ads, meta-ads, all that jazz. So we're going to hear both |
| 1:59.4 | of their perspectives, the pros and cons of each of the |
| 2:02.2 | platforms. And I just want you to know, we partner with both of them because I really believe that |
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