Hello, whinabbers. My name is Jesse Meekham and this is podcast number 224 for why now.

Where we teach you four rules to help you stop living paycheck to paycheck,

get out of debt and save more money.

When you think about saving, saving for its own sake can be dangerous.

I have with me in studio again Todd Curtis, the Chief Customer Officer for Wineab.

He obsesses about you learning how to obsess effectively over your money. Without further ado, Todd Curtis.

All right, I'm back with Todd Curtis again. He's the chief customer officer for Wienab.

He is in charge of making sure you get it and does a killer job with a

killer team that you have.

Thank you.

We want to talk today about one of the guides.

You called it Think long act now yeah and

you're not really just like turning a literary phrase there like kind of what what's

the what's the idea behind the title yeah that's one of my favorite

titles in the guides because the idea is that we really do want you to

think ahead. What are your dreams? What do you really want to accomplish with

this budget? You know, because your your ultimate goal is not just

paying off your electric bill. So we really want you to think long about those

things. But then once you identify what those are, the real difference in in reaching those goals does happen with your day-to-day

decisions so that's the act now yeah so I've got a okay we're gonna we're

gonna derail a little bit already but I had an

accounting teacher that talked about how his wife would say I want to they were like

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