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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#224 — The Key to Trump's Appeal

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2020

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris describes his new understanding of why people support President Trump.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Making Sense podcast.

0:23.5

This is Sam Harris.

0:25.1

Okay, well it is the day before the presidential election and I don't know why it's taken me this long to understand this.

0:35.1

But you beat the judge as to whether this should have been at all hard to understand.

0:42.1

As all of you know, I've been struggling for years to understand how it is possible that nearly half of American society

0:51.1

admires or at least supports Donald Trump.

0:55.1

I've spoken with Trump voters in search of illumination, but illumination never came.

1:03.1

For instance, I had Scott Adams on my podcast to explain this to me.

1:08.1

And he described Trump as a master persuader, perhaps the best he's ever seen.

1:16.1

But the problem for me is that I find Trump to be among the least persuasive people I have ever come across.

1:24.1

Whenever I see him speak, I see an obvious con man and ignoramus.

1:29.1

In fact, Trump seems to be so unaware of how people like me judge a person's credibility

1:36.1

that his efforts to appear credible, such as they are, always make him look ridiculous and even deranged.

1:44.1

So the claim that he's a brilliant persuader makes about as much sense to me as the claim that he's a model of physical fitness would.

1:53.1

In my world, the claim can be disproven at a glance.

1:57.1

And yet one thing is undeniable. Right half the country views him very differently.

2:04.1

Now, until a few minutes ago, I had more or less reconciled myself to never understanding this.

2:12.1

But I believe at this late hour on the very eve of the 2020 election, I have discovered a significant part of Trump's appeal.

2:24.1

In particular, I think I finally understand how he has supported because of his flaws rather than in spite of them.

2:33.1

That really is the key.

2:35.1

For all the things I find despicable in him, not merely things that people are willing to overlook, but reasons in and of themselves why people support him.

2:47.1

That's what I didn't understand until this moment.

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