I am back with Andrew Sullivan and you thanks for joining me again.

It's always wonderful to talk to you soon.

So first we should just say that this is a simulcast.

You are a freshly minted podcaster and I am quite honored to be your first podcaster collaborator

here.

At least it may have done podcasts in the past but this is your new dish podcast.

What's going on over there?

It is plans.

Well, where I am incredibly psyched to do this with you is the first one.

We are going to do this every week, we hope.

And the idea is to be able to have a conversation which is not constrained by all the pressures

that are on us now in the media wherever we are.

And to talk openly and reasonably with people of different views believe it or not and

to hash things out in a way that you've always been a master of doing.

So I couldn't be prouder to be launching this alongside you.

What seems to be now a tradition right every four years we get together and explain

why we're both miserable about the coming election but why we're going to vote anyway.

So thank you.

It's a big honor and I'm psyched and this is a big new adventure for all of us.

Nice.

Well, I'm very happy to do this with you.

I must say we have quite a checkered past here, however, because four years ago I think

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