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You Are Not So Smart

223 - To Persuade is Human?

You Are Not So Smart

You Are Not So Smart

Science, Psychology, Brain, Business, Mental Health, Culture, Neuroscience, Mind, Health

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2022

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

This episode, featuring Andy Luttrell of the Opinion Science Podcast, is all about a machine, built by IBM, that can debate human beings on any issue, which leads to the question: is persuasion, with language, using arguments, and the ability to alter another person’s attitudes, beliefs, values, opinions, and behavior a uniquely human phenomenon, or could you be persuaded to change your mind by an artificial intelligence designed to do just that? If so, what does that say about opinions, our arguments, and in the end, our minds? Patreon: http://patreon.com/youarenotsosmart

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0:00.0

Welcome to the You Are Not So Smart Podcast

0:27.2

Episode 223

0:46.2

A few years ago, Harish Nata Rajan was about to go on stage.

0:50.4

He was going to engage in a public debate.

0:53.6

Now Harish is a world-class debater.

0:55.5

He was a grand finalist at the 2016 World Debating Championships and the 2012 European

1:00.5

Debating Champion.

1:02.5

But this day was different.

1:05.1

He had never taken on an opponent quite like this before.

1:10.0

The day itself was a little bit odd to me in that it was an auditorium in California

1:17.4

in San Francisco.

1:18.4

And I would walk into that auditorium and there were maybe 500 computers or backstage

1:27.2

and there was a table where I think like five people were different laptops.

1:32.0

And then the monolith.

1:34.3

The monolith, literally the 2001 version of a model.

1:42.8

Here on the stage, standing tall was a sleek black slab with just a few animated circles

1:49.9

sliding around the top edge of the screen like a three-shell game.

1:53.2

There's a fact of intimidation which is like I'm one person walking here more or less

1:59.3

less by myself, you know, talking to some people who I know but really I'm by myself

2:03.8

and this is an entire not just a bushy ecosystem of laptops and computers, cameras which

2:11.6

will give you the idea that that's what you're up against.

2:14.9

This imposing piece of technology was the newest artificial intelligence project from

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