And that's when we realized we're like, we can actually do some good with this modular development too.

We can we can do affordable housing and we can get the government to help pay for part of it.

And in return, we can provide housing that's brand new quality, like class A quality apartments and in homes,

that families making, you know, $30,000 a year can actually afford to live in.

And that's when I just, I dove all in, I went down the rabbit hole, and I learned about tax

credits, public-private partnerships, you know, working with the government, working through

all of that. And it's this, it's this like total niche within real estate. But that's where I found my

passion.

Welcome to the real estate and financial independence podcast. I'm your host, Chad Carson.

You can also call me coach. And this is a show all about helping you get out of the financial

grind so you can do more of what matters. Whether you're a long-time listener or a first-time

listener, it's always an honor to have you back for another episode. The title of today's

episode is how one investor is making a debt in the affordable housing crisis while also making

money. This is an interview with Evan Holiday, and I want to take a step back that a big part

of the podcast, the interest in this podcast for me is that I get to learn from other people.

I get to have conversations about topics that I'm intrigued by or that I feel like I don't

know enough about.

And if you've watched anything in the news, read articles, or just been aware of the

United States and other countries as well, housing affordability is a big issue. And it's one of those

complex problems that I'm still trying to get my head around. But I really feel strongly that we

real estate investors are a part of the solution. And there's different ways that we might be able to

help with that. But one particular way that I interviewed Evan about is he is a real estate developer,

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