This is Jocco podcast number 222 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink. Good evening, echo. Good evening

Someone called for my Afghan interpreter, Rockman. A good man with whom we had worked with for some time

These interpreters are the unsung heroes of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

They often suffer threats and ostracism for their willingness to endure the battlefield alongside us

Their motivation isn't money

There isn't enough money to make it worthwhile

Facing down insurgents who know where you and your family live

They are idealists

They work and risk death because they believe in our common cause of

freedom

Rockman

Responded to the call immediately running before me

His foot fell on a particular spot just two feet away from where I stood

I was looking right at him

As I later discovered he instantly lost all his limbs in the explosion

Even though I was staring right at him I never actually saw it happen

My experience was a series of tremendous blows and subsequent

Realizations a train hit me

ears ringing what the fuck was that

Darkness something is wrong got hit my legs reached out and see if they're still there

They're there. I feel them pain everywhere mostly my abdomen

Something shot through it I think my eyes must be caked with mud. I can barely see anything I

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