Thinking Basketball podcast. My name is Ben. Welcome back to another episode. It is episode three of our

21st century series on the best peaks. That is the best individual player seasons of the 21st century.

If you miss the first two episodes, there's a lot of preamble and spiel in our introductory

episode. We get into the criteria. We don't have time for that today because we are on the

crazy train talking about really, I think, some foundational big men that need to be discussed today.

We just have to jump into it.

I mean, we're going to talk about Draymond Green and we're going to talk about Dwight Howard.

These are the two players we're going to discuss.

And Cody, do you have any thoughts before we dive in?

Well, first of all, I actually think that we really restrained ourselves in the first two

episodes. I think relative to us, there was some fat cutting of the spiels, right? I think

we've done much worse in the past. Number two, I'm really excited about today because I think,

I think, I'm just putting it out there right now,

I have a feeling that the Draymond Green selection in the top 25 might be the most controversial

topic we bring up in this entire series.

So I'm really interested to see what people have to say about it, but I know we have a lot

of ground to cover with him.

So I just want to say that I'm excited,

probably the most about that conversation today. Good. Let's have it. Because I agree. I think

he's an extremely polarizing player. There are people who don't even think he's good, which is

strangely just one of the weirdest takes. But also when I was thinking about that,

I was like, so much of internet basketball culture is just people hating every player,

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