thinking basketball podcast my name is Ben welcome back to part two of our delusional maniacal ridiculous effort to

rank the best defenders I don't even know rank we just wanted to talk about the best defenders I don't even know rank. We just wanted to talk about the best

defenders. I don't know how we started ranking them. We're trying to sort out who the

best defenders are of this generation of the last 15 years. Why 15 years?

Who knows it's a round number.

Last time we did the top eight, Big Men.

And we did, you know, we did eight Cody

because we figured Big Men men they have huge defensive impact.

What else are you going to ask of a big man?

He can't dribble and shoot threes.

So we got to give a little love to the big people out there and their defense.

Today, maybe we'll try to go for five wing defenders.

I feel like we're going to talk about 26 wing defenders, but we'll try to actually rank five this let me just say at the top

are you okay are you ready to do this are you are you nervous I mean I don't know if I'm nervous or I'm just like in awe of this colossal task that we've undertaken because it's, you know, like you said with the eight thing, like maybe if we do five, there's just so many guys that I considered to be in the

top five that I like I don't know how to separate them at a certain point I'm like I can't I

can't rate them anymore I just can't do it the they're they're more compressed together in value, trying to figure out the value is harder.

There's fewer data signals that we traditionally have in an area where we already are low on data, which is defense, if you're

watching on YouTube, I'm jealous. The dog is asleep behind us. That's where I

think I should be for this episode and let some up sorry she heard that I mentioned her name

Because this is just this is grueling this is splitting hairs figuring out the value of these players and I think we should just I think we should

just jump right in I think we should just jump right in yeah you have a question

what what yeah maybe before we jump in, because I think something that gets really difficult when it comes to Wing and then, you know, in the future Guard defenders, I think there has to be like an undergirding philosophy that you come to the table with and that sort of informs

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