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Michael and Us

#216 - Both Sides Now (w/ Alex Shephard)

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.6668 Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2021

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

America is divided, capitalism is to blame, and the only solution is... more capitalism. That's the thesis of STARS AND STRIFE (2020), another centrist documentary from the last election in which the architects of oligarchy and globalization, and big money in politics call for... an end to those things. Niall Ferguson, Rahm Emanuel, Amy Chua, Alan Greenspan, and Francis Fukuyama are just a few of the titans who deliver wildly contradictory prescriptions to America's ills in this truly dreadful documentary. We're joined by New Republic staff writer Alex Shephard to discuss. PLUS: the ongoing grift of David Brooks. "David Brooks and the Endless Grift of the Conservative Commentariat" by Alex Shephard - https://newrepublic.com/article/161621/david-brooks-endless-grift-conservative-commentariat

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0:00.0

20, rodents, run it, rodents, everything from fashion,

0:02.2

to tag a game, murder, hornets, what a scare,

0:04.8

TikTok dances everywhere, basil's making crazy some sports and empty stadiums.

0:09.0

And Saturday we said RIP to Cody Chadwick, RBG.

0:14.4

Yeah, I mean, this, this happens every time.

0:16.6

Like, we have, we both have that same thought every time we do a movie like this, which is why, like, we've had to kind of radically expand the palette of the podcast to also include, you know, art films and stuff.

0:28.5

Because, like, otherwise, we would just go crazy and we would not be able to keep doing this.

0:32.3

Like, there's only so much liberal and conservative and, like, centrist kits that you could take at one time but like I always have

0:39.2

there's always the same series of thoughts I have watching a movie like this one is who is it for

0:44.2

two is how much can there possibly be left in this movie usually I think it's about 20 minutes and

0:50.5

usually I find him actually only about 20 minutes into it and then and then relatedly and thirdly like you know only about 20 minutes into it. And then and then relatedly and

0:55.9

thirdly like you know you get 20 minutes into a movie like this and you think how much more can

1:00.1

it possibly have to say? Like everything has already been said. Where do we go? How do we fill another

1:04.9

hour with this? And somehow these movies always seem to have the answer. Well, especially lately.

1:09.6

I have we watched like five of these documentaries with the exact same thesis?

1:14.5

All of which came out in 2020.

1:17.5

Sorry, I'm not being articulate.

1:19.9

I just feel like I'm going insane.

1:22.1

I was just like, who is this movie for?

1:24.9

Like, what's the audience for this? I i mean obviously it's all these people who are

1:29.8

so far up their own asses that they think that if you know some schmuck turns on showtime or

1:36.3

whatever and sees this that suddenly whatever he'll you know buy into the jd vance senate

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