This is Jockel Podcast number two fifteen with echo Charles and me, Jockel Willink.

Good evening, echo.

Good evening.

Got a little quote kick things off today.

The general who does not advance to seek glory or does not withdraw to avoid punishment,

but cares for only the people's security and promotes the people's interest is the nation's

treasure.

That's a little sunsue coming at you.

And of course, we covered sunsue on Podcast number twenty three.

And you can, it's just always interesting how you can find the same themes throughout

time from a leadership perspective.

I know I talk about this point a lot in leadership strategy and tactics book.

This statement right here, it's twenty five hundred years old and he's saying the same

thing that I say in leadership strategy and tactics that many of the problems that come

about for a leader are from their ego.

And so we have to learn to keep our ego in check.

Now this is, we talk about it in extreme ownership, the very first book.

This isn't like, hey, I just thought of this yesterday and it's not like I just thought

of this anyway.

Like I said, somebody was jumping on somebody was making some comments on social media

platform that it said he's acting like he, like me, I'm acting like I invented cover

and move.

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