214. Uncertain times ahead for Ukraine.
Battleground
Goalhanger
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🗓️ 8 November 2024
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Reflecting on Trump's seismic win in the US presidential election earlier this week, Saul and Patrick discuss what this means for US support for Ukraine in its war against Russia.
Patrick also speaks to friend of the podcast American-Ukrainian Askold Krushelnycky, who is in Washington having returned from Ukraine to vote in the election. He gives his reaction, as well as sharing the those of his friends and contacts back in Ukraine.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the battleground podcast with me Saul David and Patrick Bishop. |
| 0:17.2 | Dominating the news this week, of course, was Donald Trump's decisive victory in the US presidential election, |
| 0:23.0 | defeating Kamala Harris by, as things stand, 295 electoral college votes to 226, there are still two states to declare. |
| 0:31.8 | But he also won importantly Patrick the popular vote by 50.88% to 47.6%. Later in the podcast, we'll be hearing from American |
| 0:40.7 | Ukrainian journalist Ascol Prusielnitsky, who was in Washington, D.C. for the vote, and hearing |
| 0:46.0 | his response to a Trump presidency with, of course, regard to the war in Ukraine. In a special |
| 0:51.4 | emergency podcast on Wednesday, Roger Morehouse and I gave our immediate response |
| 0:56.1 | to the Trump victory and the likely consequences for Ukraine and NATO. We were both of the opinion that, |
| 1:02.0 | despite fears to the contrary, Trump would not pull America out of NATO and might even shake up |
| 1:07.4 | things in a positive sense with regard to Ukraine. There's a big might in that, |
| 1:11.9 | of course. But we also felt that it very much depended on who he named as his key foreign policy |
| 1:16.4 | and security advisors. Good news if they were hawks like Robert O'Brien, not so good at people less |
| 1:21.8 | committed to supporting Ukraine and NATO, like Richard Brunel, were appointed. But Patrick, now the dust has settled. |
| 1:29.0 | What's your take on all of this? Well, the dust may have settled, but the picture remains pretty |
| 1:34.4 | murky, doesn't it? It's all about Trump's intentions, and we'll learn a lot more when he announces, |
| 1:41.1 | as he say, his defence and security team, that is who he picks for the |
| 1:45.1 | key jobs to lead as Department of State, events, and who he chooses his national security |
| 1:51.9 | advisor. Now, among the names being mooted, you see a quite a broad range of different opinions |
| 1:57.1 | on the subject of Ukraine. Asgold, who will be hearing from later, mentions Marco Rubio |
| 2:02.9 | as a potential Secretary of State, which potentially might be good news for Ukraine, but then |
| 2:09.2 | you've got these others, like you say, like Grinnell, who's being spoken of as a potential |
| 2:13.6 | national security advisor, who are of a very different opinion. So we just have to wait and see. |
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