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I would like to acknowledge the traditional owners on whose unseeded land we are meeting today.

The were undudged people of the Kulin nation. I pay my respect to their continued fight for sovereignty

and self-determination and acknowledge that as settlers we have and continue to benefit from the

theft of their land, culture and lives. I acknowledge that treaty talks in the state of Victoria

in Australia have not begun and pay my respect to elders past and in the room here with us today.

I'm a feminist, but the other day when my partner and I went out for breakfast,

hers arrived and there was just a tiny portion of avocado because she ought to decide of avocado.

And we both agreed that it wasn't enough and I said, you should totally say something, go and take

it back, you should say something. And she did and they agreed that it was tiny and they gave us a

more. But if it was me that got the avocado, I wouldn't have said anything. I would have

thought of waiting and then given them a tip.

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