At the moment, or at least until recently, we had an understanding of the whole of society

that there are certain areas where men are not allowed to go and where women are not

allowed to go.

So single sex basis, toilets, bathrooms, changing rooms, prisons, hospitals, for those

single sex basis to work, it has to be policed by the whole of society.

You do not have a policeman on the door of every public toilet of every primarch changing

room.

But it's because it's very socially unacceptable for a man to try and enter on the space or

vice versa.

Now, if you break down the social contract that says men are not allowed in women's

spaces, predators are going to use that loophole to gain access to women's spaces.

It's an inevitability.

Hello, welcome back to the Brendan O'Neill show with me, Brendan O'Neill, and my special

guest this week, Miriam Kates, the member of Parliament for Penestone and Stocksbridge.

Miriam, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me on.

I'm really delighted to have you on.

There is a big issue I feel that people should be talking about, and that's the question

of the gender reform bill in Scotland.

The impact it might have on all sorts of issues, firstly, women's rights, also the constitutional

arrangements between England and Scotland and the broader United Kingdom.

Lots of big political and social issues are thrown somewhat into the air by this

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