And the problem is, ministers seem to be listening too much to their own civil servants

who just have this inherent attitude that we shouldn't have left and we should be trying

to do everything, you know, to get back in again.

We're not helped by the media, of course.

There's just always this superior attitude taken by many journalists that somehow anyone

who voted to leave must, you know, now be regretting it.

That's the line they're trying to push, which, of course, I don't think is true at all.

Certainly, in those strong areas, I think what they are just so angry about is that they

haven't got a real proper Brexit.

Hello, welcome back to the Brendan O'Neill show with me, Brendan O'Neill and my special

guest this week, Kate Hoey.

Kate, welcome to the show.

Thank you very much, Brendan.

So, Kate, there are always too many issues that I want to discuss with you, but I want to kick

off by talking about Northern Ireland.

Northern Ireland is a place very close to your heart.

That's where you're from.

You're now appear in the House of Lords, representing an area of Northern Ireland,

having been a Labour MP for Voxel for 30 years before that.

And it's fair to say that the status of Northern Ireland as part of the United Kingdom has been

somewhat thrown into question by Brexit, or more accurately by some institutions at response

to Brexit, the European Union, the Irish government, sections of the British political class,

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