If your instincts are that something's wrong, maybe it's a good time to stick around and make sure nothing else happens.

I was teaching college at night. I asked him if I could take a cold case. That first night I walked in, I dropped the murder box right in front of him.

And I said this is now your case.

Find the people who are doing it and attach yourself to them and learn all their best habits, best tips and tricks. Nobody does it by themselves.

Hello and welcome to Best Case Worst Case. This is Jim Clemente Retired, I'm a profiler for Nick, City Prosecutor and Writer Producer and CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today is...

Everybody, it's Francy Hakes, former State and Federal Prosecutor Jim. We are back at it, regular Best Case Worst Case, behind police lines. And today, I'm so excited because not only do we have a special guest, we have a special guest from my own State of Georgia Jim.

Wow.

Well, we'll see about that. It's fantastic and our special guest is Cheryl McCollum. She's obviously from Atlanta, you can hear her accent, I love it. Cheryl McCollum, tell us what you're back for.

It's about who you are.

Well, I'm the director of the cold case investigative research institute, but I'm also a crime scene investigator for a local Mitchell Atlanta department. So I wear both hats a lot.

Yeah, one of our actual actual bad tolders here, we have a real live, just like Vinnie the cop comedian we had on a few weeks ago. Now we have Cheryl. Cheryl, are you a comedian by any chance?

I love her, honey. We'll see.

I know.

You know, Fred thinks she is too. It's really interesting. The point is that most leads Jim who likes to mock me and he thinks that's funny. Anyway, let's talk about you. This is so exciting. I'm so grateful you came on the show because we just don't have very many people from Georgia.

I mean, Jim doesn't let me every time I ask him to know he doesn't like people from Georgia or any southern state or really anyone from anywhere but California. So I'm pretty sure I've heard him say that.

But I have you and you're from Georgia. So tell us about your background. What do you do and how did you get there?

Well, I'm in native Atlanta and I was educated through all my years from elementary school all the way through college in Fort County. So went to a little Academy for high school, which is in college part.

And then I went to Georgia State, which is right downtown Atlanta. And my husband and I went to high school and college together.

And we now have two children ones in college, our son and our daughter is fixing to head out next year. So she's fixing to.

Yeah, she has.

I got a translate.

Yeah, when we use terms of art that general people don't understand. We always like to ask everyone understand.

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