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I am here with Paige Harden. Paige, thanks for joining me.

Thank you for having me, Sam.

So just a few notes to our listeners that we're kind of jumping on this podcast because

we had a bit of a Twitter collision and then a very friendly person reached out to both

of us to see if he or she could midwife a better conversation. So at least one thing

that's relevant there is that I haven't sent you the gear. I usually send guests to get

as close to perfect audio as we can get.

So we're doing this over Skype and apologies for any Skype like glitches in your sound.

Before we jump in, can you summarize your academic background and just what you've been

focusing on as a scientist?

Yeah, so I am a professor at the University of Texas at Austin where I've been since graduate

school. And I run a research lab there that is focused on genetic influences and how

they shape child and adolescent development. So one part of that is on cognition and academic

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