21: The Lincoln Project V MAGA with Reed Galen & Rick Wilson

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🗓️ 4 October 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Jen is joined by Reed Galen and Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project to discuss the fight to take down Trump. A fight they’ve waged since he revealed his authoritarian tendencies. They explain why he can’t be fought like a normal candidate, how the media gets played by conservatives, and argue that defeating him is a battle for democracy that goes beyond party divisions. Together, they explore how he fooled Republican voters, his use of vengeance while wielding power, the impact of his court cases, Kevin McCarthy’s failures, and how Trump’s primary challengers can gain ground. Will our democracy be able to survive him?

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0:00.0	Hi, this is Jen Rubin, and this is Jen Rubin's Green Room. As we sit here, the government is still
0:18.4	operating, thanks to Democrats. And Kevin McCarthy's
0:22.5	speakership may be coming to an end, as many of us predicted, the worst, the weakest
0:29.0	speaker in the history of the United States. And Donald Trump is sitting in a New York
0:34.5	courtroom. And at risk here is his livelihood, his buildings, his name on buildings.
0:43.2	And you could understand why he has freaked out because there's nothing that Donald Trump
0:48.5	cares about, not even being president as much as he cares about having money, because
0:53.8	money gives him a power base.
0:58.3	Money confirms that he is not a loser.
1:01.6	Money confirms that Fred Trump would have been proud of him.
1:06.7	So watching Donald Trump lose money is really good.
1:10.6	It's really fun.
1:12.1	But it's really not the whole shebang.
1:15.3	Of course, we have a democracy to worry about.
1:18.0	And as much as it might delight us to see Trump poorer than he is,
1:24.2	the real name of the game is making sure he doesn't become president again. And on this show,
1:30.4	we have two guests who have done more to entertain, to delight us, but also, I think, to shake up
1:38.7	people who may previously have thought, we can just go along with Donald Trump because of the judges,
1:45.6	because of the tax cuts, what have you.
1:48.0	And these guys in 2020 went out and helped, let's be clear, helped Joe Biden win.
1:59.7	They created ads. They went viral. They were everywhere on the media,
2:06.0	and they came to be a household word, or words, the Lincoln Project, appropriately named
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