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and Hello and welcome to politics theory other.

My name is Alex Doherty and today I'm joined by Sophie Lewis.

We'll be discussing trans-exclusionary radical feminism,

the relationship between the emergence

of this ideology and the legacy of 1968, as well as the contrasting reception of turfs in the

UK and the United States. As always, you can listen to the podcast on SoundCloud, iTunes and

ACAS, and you can also follow on Facebook and Twitter. The handle is at Poll Theory

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Sophie Lewis is a writer family abolitionist and critical human

geographer and has a PhD from the University

of Manchester. Her essays have appeared in Salvage Magazine, Viewpoint, Jacobin and

the Boston Review, amongst other venues. Her first book, Full Surrogacy Now, Feminism

Against the Family, is out next May from Verso Books. If you would like to follow her on Twitter, she tweets at Repro Utopia.

Today's interview was prompted by my reading her excellent article in Salvage,

which is titled Surf and Turf, Notes on Some Bad Materialisms.

I'll post the link to that article in the description of the show.

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