The theatre is one of the few art forms where things change in front of your eyes.

We had to really take the audience with them.

It's very beautiful to be part of an audible gasp.

From the TED Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Millman.

On Design Matters, Debbie talks with some of the most creative people in the world about what they do,

how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this episode, in celebration of the 20th anniversary of Design Matters, we'll hear from

some of the em imminent theatrical and production designers

Debbie has interviewed over the years. The cool thing about theater, we really get to mess with

those proportions. I said, what? You're doing a film? You have to hire me.

I live in New York City, and one of the reasons I live here is the theater.

I love the theater, and I go to as many shows as I can.

I always have, and I always well.

Of course, I'm astonished by the dazzling playwriting and great performances.

But as a designer, I'm also intrigued by the beautiful design and find it central to every theatrical experience.

I feel the same way about films and concerts and their production design.

Over the years, I've had the great pleasure of interviewing a number of stellar theatrical designers. On this episode, I'm going to play

some excerpts of some of my favorites. In 2018, I interviewed David Korens, who has designed

everything from restaurant interiors to performance stages for Lady Gaga, Mariah Carey, and Bruno Mars. In 2018, I spoke with him about

his set design for the Broadway show Hamilton. You passionately wanted to be involved with Hamilton

and pitch director Thomas Kale that you would be the James Madison to his Jefferson. And we can understand

what now. But back then, before it was even off Broadway, and when it was the 10 people in a room,

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