They won't see you mate because it's a podcast. Episode 222 too I think, I think, of 20 minute times.

Welcome.

I am your host Stephen and with me as always is my podcasting wife,

your friend and mine is it's Martin Meli.

Yes, here. No Jamie this week, we are but a twosome here.

But in families the guy podcasts about four times a week, so he's due about annual leave.

Yeah we're just like Neil Wenning's Celtic we don't have that focal point up front

do we?

Exactly, exactly. It could be a vocal point couldn't he?

We just need to work out him.

I like what you did there. Really what we usually do to give the

listeners a peek behind the curtain here we have many podcasts under the 20 minute times by

of this being the flagship as it's become

become known. Amazing that we've got away with that calling something the flagship and

cop the very little flacker but that's the name of it, that's how it stands.

What we would normally do is we have reaction podcast over on Patreon.

Patreon.com slash 20 minute terms,

where we get to the mics immediately after the final whistles to talk about the game so that's really just the

the podcast on which we give our immediate views whether they're positive negative well

bit of both this week we'll we'll find out as we go forward.

But what we'd normally do is we'll give their thoughts right away.

And by the time the Monday flagship rolls around, we might take the opportunity to take on a different view, use more information

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