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Michael and Us

#209 - Tony Benn: Against the Tide

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.6668 Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2021

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

For decades the most visible socialist in Britain, the late Labour Party MP Tony Benn is the rare instance of a left-wing politician who became even more radical as his political career progressed. The 1990 documentary TONY BENN: AGAINST THE TIDE, 1973-6 looks back at four years where radical change seemed possible and Benn was at the height of his power within Labour. We discuss his thwarted political vision, and how his politics remained consistent through the dark winters of Thatcher and Blair. PLUS: American media under Biden, and the death of Larry Flynt. Watch the documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h9qv1HQ4w8&ab_channel=ModernLonelyTV "Tony Benn Spent His Life Fighting for Democracy and Socialism" by Leo Panitch and Colin Leys - https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/04/tony-benn-birthday-labour-party-uk-new-left

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0:00.0

And indeed we now see that the whole common market argument is about democracy.

0:06.0

It is about our right to decide things for ourselves.

0:11.0

It is comrades intolerable that the Irish, the Norwegians, the French who were only asked to decide whether they wanted us in, and this very

0:22.5

day the Danes have been allowed to speak for themselves when the government, Whitehall,

0:27.7

and the whole Fleet Street are still trying to brainwash the British people, of all

0:32.7

people, into believing that we are quite unfitted to exercise the same basic right of self-determination.

0:40.3

Welcome to Michael and Us. I'm Will Sloan, here as always with.

0:44.3

Luke Savage, hello everyone.

0:46.3

Just minutes before we started recording, I saw that Larry Flint passed away.

0:50.3

Did you see this news, Luke?

0:52.3

I did not, no. I've been, I've been busy doing my

0:54.8

homework for the episode, so I have not been checking the news. This is my homework for the episode,

1:00.3

checking what is on Twitter 15 minutes before we start recording. Tushay. And I was thinking,

1:06.2

what am I going to talk about? What has grabbed my interest this week? And coming to the rescue is

1:12.5

the corpse of Hustler Magazine founder, Larry Flint. I mean, I never read Hustler Magazine.

1:20.1

Most of my knowledge of Larry Flint comes from the 1996 Woody Harrelson film. Right, we've gotten

1:26.4

a lot of requests to do that movie, and I have to say, I don't really

1:29.4

know anything about it.

1:30.7

Well, it's like, it's a biopic, you know.

1:32.7

It's mostly about all of his legal troubles, and I don't know how familiar you are with

1:37.2

his big legal case, because he had many legal cases over the years related to obscenity or

1:42.8

related to this or that. But the big one, the one that went

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