#209 Erik Prince & Erik Bethel - The China / Taiwan Conflict

Shawn Ryan Show

Society & Culture, Philosophy

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🗓️ 16 June 2025

⏱️ 138 minutes

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Erik Prince is an American businessman, former U.S. Navy SEAL, and the founder of Blackwater, a private military company established in 1997. A graduate of Hillsdale College, Prince heads Frontier Resource Group, a private equity firm, and promotes economic development in emerging markets. He hosts the podcast Off Leash with Erik Prince, launched in 2023, and founded Unplugged, a privacy-focused smartphone company. Prince, a vocal advocate for privatizing military operations and deregulation, has been linked to controversial arms deals and Trump-era political operations. Erik Bethel is a General Partner at Mare Liberum, a fund focused on sustainability and national security in the maritime domain. He is a global finance professional with experience in the private and public sectors. In 2020, he was nominated to serve as the U.S. Ambassador to the Republic of Panama. Previously, he was nominated by the President and confirmed unanimously by the Senate to represent the United States at the World Bank. At the World Bank, Erik participated in the analysis and deployment of over $100 billion of capital in the developing world through grants, loans, equity investments, and other financial products. Previously, Erik spent over twenty years working as an investment banker and private equity professional at Franklin Templeton Investments, J.P. Morgan, and Morgan Stanley. Erik earned a BS in economics and political science from the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis and an MBA from the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania. He serves on several Boards, including the United States Naval War College Foundation, is a Fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), and is an Advisor to Oxford Analytica - a geopolitical think tank. He speaks Spanish, Portuguese, and Mandarin. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://www.roka.com - USE CODE SRS ⁠https://www.betterhelp.com/srs⁠ This episode is sponsored. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/srs and get on your way to being your best self. ⁠https://www.bubsnaturals.com/shawn⁠ ⁠https://www.meetfabric.com/shawn⁠ ⁠https://www.shawnlikesgold.com⁠ ⁠https://www.helixsleep.com/srs⁠ ⁠https://hexclad.com/srs⁠Find your forever cookware @hexclad and get 10% off at hexclad.com/srs! #hexcladpartner ⁠https://www.moinkbox.com/srs⁠ ⁠https://www.paladinpower.com/srs⁠ ⁠https://uscca.com/srs⁠ Guest Links: Erik Prince X - https://x.com/therealErikP LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-prince Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/off-leash-with-erik-prince Frontier Resource Group - https://www.frgroup.com Unplugged Phone - https://unplugged.com Erik Bethel LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-bethel-692604Mare Liberum - https://www.mareliberumcapital.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:37.7	Eric Prince, Eric Bethel.
0:39.8	I was hoping you guys would meet someday.
0:41.3	Glad to make that happen.
0:43.2	Eric's with a cake.
0:44.0	Yeah.
0:45.0	Truly anomaly.
0:46.8	Three of them in the building right now.
0:53.6	But just thank you guys for coming, both of your repeat guest, former ambassador to World Bank,
0:58.5	Eric Prince, former CEO of Blackwater, Navy SEAL.
1:00.5	So I wanted to get you... Ambassador of Happiness.
1:02.7	Ambassador of happiness.
1:05.4	I wanted to get you guys in here about this Taiwan stuff that's going on.
1:10.3	So the timing couldn't really be better for me.
1:12.7	I got the vice president of Taiwan coming on here pretty soon. And so everything just lined up
1:19.1	perfectly. And I want to use this interview to kind of educate the audience and not only the
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