208 | Alec Ross: What Happens When Companies Get Involved in Geopolitics?
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🗓️ 7 March 2022
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| 0:00.0 | Marshall here. Welcome back to the Realignment. This is the fourth day of the |
| 0:06.5 | Realignment's daily coverage of the Ukraine crisis. Quick run of show. Wednesday I |
| 0:12.6 | had Nate Sibleon to talk about sanctions, the oligarchy, and what will and what |
| 0:18.7 | won't change Putin's regime. Thursday, Saganay did a discussion Q&A |
| 0:23.5 | episode. Finally on Friday, I had Dr. David Kukallin to talk about counterinsurgency |
| 0:28.0 | and Ukraine's long-term prospects. A question we've gotten a lot has been a degree |
| 0:34.9 | of discomfort around Mastercard, Visa, Facebook, now TikTok, all these different |
| 0:44.6 | companies joining the sanctions against Russia as part of the broader strategy of |
| 0:49.6 | economic punishment for the invasion of Ukraine. A lot of people will while |
| 0:53.5 | agreeing with the need to punish Russia to quote Nate Sibley limit their |
| 0:59.8 | ability to wage war, they're still a little uncomfortable with companies taking |
| 1:04.0 | these actions. They're not quite sure they can trust a company to be very fair |
| 1:08.0 | and accurate. And other people especially on the right worry that hey is this an |
| 1:11.8 | example of virtue signaling, cancel culture, deep platforming, someone on the left |
| 1:17.7 | would even then add to, oh I'm worried that companies are entering into the |
| 1:21.8 | foreign policy sphere. People would hate different perspectives on those. But |
| 1:24.9 | overall I wanted to do an episode directly on this topic. So I decided to bring |
| 1:28.7 | Brack a great guest of the show Alec Ross. He came on the show last September to |
| 1:33.6 | talk about his book The Raging 2020s, Companies, Countries, People and the |
| 1:38.1 | Fight for Our Future. The basic idea of the book is that as we're looking at |
| 1:41.7 | this decade we should really think of the fact that you have companies operating |
| 1:46.8 | in many ways that states do and often used to fill this real mix of public and |
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